The Welcome back to the Telos of Tech podcast with your host, Mike.

Hello.

How's it going?

You might notice that for those that are watching the video,

there is no video portion of the podcast this week, and that's because I'm here with a guest.

And the guest that I have today is a special one, one that I hold in high esteem and that I care

about a lot. My wife, Carrie, how's it going?

Hey, everybody.

Carrie hasn't really been on many podcasts or really much recording because I think you're

maybe on the TV once or twice, but otherwise this is sort of new to you.

Yeah, I think this is my first podcast ever.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, Drew and Randy were busy this week.

So you've got me and Carrie for this one.

And so I thought that we would maybe talk about some technology that we've gone through in our lives,

kind of growing up in the early or mid-90s and seeing how things are progressed,

but mainly kind of working our way up to today and what we use in technology because,

well, it's kind of interesting hearing what other people have used, what they've been exposed to, what kind of phones

that they grew up with, what was their favorite phone and all that. So I thought it'd be somewhat

simple and easy for you since you're not really the biggest tech guru that I know around.

I am not the biggest tech guru. This is true. You are the tech guru of the two of us.

Yeah. Do you remember the first technology or piece of technology that you ever interacted with?

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