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Metta Hour with Sharon Salzberg

Ep. 272 – Kid’s Series: Susan Kaiser Greenland

Metta Hour with Sharon Salzberg

Be Here Now Network

Society & Culture, Sharonsalzberg, Metta, Salzberg, Meditation, Beherenownetwork, Buddhism, Religion & Spirituality, Beherenow, Compassion

4.6682 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

For episode 272, we are launching a new series on the Metta Hour, centered on kids, in honor of Sharon’s first children’s book, Kind Karl, coming out on December 9th! 

Co-authored by Jason Gruhl, this illustrated picture book is for 4-8 year-olds and is a new children’s adaptation of Sharon’s beloved book Lovingkindness. To learn more about Sharon’s forthcoming children’s book, Kind Karl, and pre-order a copy with a special pre-order gift, you can visit Sharon’s website, right here.

For this podcast series, Sharon speaks with educators, caregivers, and researchers about the ways meditation, mindfulness, and lovingkindness can impact children of all ages and the family systems that support them. 

For the first episode of the series, Sharon speaks with Susan Kaiser Greenland. Susan is a mindfulness educator and bestselling author, specializing in distilling global wisdom traditions and scientific research into straightforward everyday practices. In the early 2000s, she helped pioneer the introduction of secular mindfulness into classrooms through her Inner Kids model. After decades of working with children and adults and writing two widely translated books, Susan’s latest book, Real-World Enlightenment, was published in 2024 by Shambhala.

In this conversation, Susan and Sharon speak about:

  • Susan’s journey with meditation
  • Meditation’s effect on Susan’s son
  • Inspiration for writing The Mindful Child
  • Volunteering in schools
  • Creating the Inner Kids program
  • The importance of storytelling
  • The playful approach for young ages
  • The positive effects of mindfulness in schools
  • The “Pink Bubble” compassion exercise
  • Mindfulness for family dynamics
  • Susan’s UCLA research findings
  • Susan’s most recent book, Real World Enlightenment

The episode closes with Susan leading guided practice. You can learn more about Susan’s work on her website, right here.

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Transcript

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Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.co.

0:05.5

com.uk-w-woundary.

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That's audible.com.

0:08.8

UK slash Wondery.

0:27.0

Hello, and welcome to the Meta Hour podcast with Sharon Salzberg.

0:38.7

I'm Lily Cushman. I produce this podcast. And today we're coming to you with a whole new series centered around kits.

0:46.1

We're launching the series today in honor of Sharon's very first children's book,

0:51.0

Kind Carl, A Little Crocodile with Big Feelings.

0:59.3

The book is co-authored by the wonderful Jason Gruel and is coming out on December 9th.

1:08.4

So we're doing this series as a way to kind of birth the book into the world, but we've had a lot of requests over the years for conversations that center around mindfulness,

1:14.7

meditation, loving kindness, how all these tools can impact children of different ages,

1:20.9

as well as the family systems that support these kids.

1:26.7

So we're really excited.

1:28.3

This is going to be a many, many episode series.

1:32.3

We're doing the first one today with episode 272.

1:36.3

So before we dive into the first episode, I want to tell you a little bit more about

1:43.3

Kind Carl. Carl is a really adorable

1:46.8

crocodile. This is an illustrated picture book that Sharon has co-authored. It's for four to

1:54.4

eight-year-olds, and it's actually an adaptation, a children's adaptation, of Sharon's first book, The Very Beloved, Loving Kindness.

2:05.6

So this is a toolkit for young four to eight year olds to learn about loving kindness.

2:12.6

And there are just delightful illustrations of Carl and his many animal friends that he goes to school with.

2:21.8

So we're just excited to kind of venture into the younger community.

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