Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast that's all about how to be as happy as we can be

under the circumstances.

This week we'll talk about why you might make a list to make memories, and we'll talk

to our friend Meditation Expert Dan Harris of 10% Happier.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness, good habits in human nature.

Usually I'm recording this in a studio in Midtown Manhattan, but right now I'm recording

at my desk in my home office on the every side, and with me is my sister, Lysif Kraft.

That's me, Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA.

And Gretchen, I'm safe for at home, so here I am in my office.

Here we are.

Now, Lysif, before we jump into this week's episode, we wanted to let everybody know,

if they don't already know, that every weekday, Monday through Friday, we are having our coping

with COVID-19 conversations on Instagram live.

Yes, and it gives me a reason to wear lipstick every day.

So it's a great full forehead, Gretchen.

Yes, yes, every day, 4 p.m. Eastern, 1 p.m. Pacific, we get on there, we talk about tips

and solutions and strategies, we have a virtual book group that we're doing.

Lysif, you were the one behind our next book choice.

Yes, which is David Sideris' Me Talk Pretty One Day.

Yeah, yeah.

So for the happier podcast book club, but it's for the Instagram Live book club.

And so anyway, it's a really great place to have a little bit of conversation in the middle

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