The baby is more biological. So let the baby kind of like, you know, put that into the biological rhythm.

What's up guys? Jeff and Jeremy here. Another episode of Five Minute Fatherhood fun. Question for today comes from our community. This is Valerie Hayes. Valerie, how are you doing? We love you guys. We always are seeing you around our community and homeroom and family teams. So great question, by the way, from your guys' team. Let's see if we can help you here. How do you sync up nap times with an infant and a toddler? How long of a grace period do give yourself to transition as a new team member is added to the squad. Great question. I'll have Jeremy answer this one

since he probably can remember from 20 years ago. No. Help me, Jeff. Yeah, exactly. No, I'll try to

answer just from our perspective. And I'd love to just hear your advice on just the philosophy of it and

stuff like that, Jeremy. But yeah, so it sounds like what I'm hearing is you guys added kid number two.

And kid number two now is baby. You have a toddler. How do you kind of dance? Because the hardest place to be in as a family is what I'm hearing you say you don't want to be is when like the toddler schedule is opposite of the baby schedule. And you're just like, you know, basically just revolving door of naps and snacks and all that. So I do think we this is not a law. This is not gospel, but I think for us,

we try really hard to get, because this is about family sustainability. And if you want to have a

bigger family team, then you really need sustainability. So for us, we have a high value of like

getting the kids, the newer members of the family into a similar schedule as everyone else, right? And making sure that the toddlers stay on a certain schedule. So now our kids don't have, I think they usually stop napping around like, I don't know, three or something like that. But we still do what we call quiet time. And it's actually not even quiet time. It's like they can talk and all that. They just have to stay in the room. They got to clean it up when it's done. They got to obey, listen, all that stuff and be kind of, you know, imaginative and color and play. So I would say give yourself, the second question is give yourself a lot of grace because the worst thing you want to do is force something so heavy-handed that it begins to hurt some hearts and begins to hurt just natural rhythm. So I think pay attention to natural

rhythms of kids. If you are working backwards, maybe one tip I would say is the baby is more

biological. So let the baby kind of like, you know, put that into the biological rhythm,

of course, within what you want to try to hopefully obtain. And then allow the toddler to bend more. That's what, if that makes sense of like, oh, hey, baby's napping right now. I think this is a really good time that we're going to try to have some, you know, imaginative play or Lego time or book reading time or read aloud time, et cetera. So that's what I would say. And that's the easiest way I think that we've done it is kind of, you know, work backwards from baby schedules if you are working backwards. But I don't know, Jeremy, if you would add anything there. No, that's really good, man. It has been a long time before we've had to sync this up. I would say, too, at the bigger picture level, what you were saying that what we're trying to do, you guys, philosophically, is we're trying

to introduce each child into the family team where they are, we're all orbiting the family

and none of us are orbiting just the individual. And obviously when the infant's really little,

there's a lot of accommodation we make for infants. But as they're getting a little older and they're

become a little more trainable, or especially when they're toddlers, like I love what you're saying,

Jeff, is like at that stage, they should be able to flex. And if a family member really needs to be,

you know, we need to be really careful with their schedule, like a newborn baby, then it's important that the toddler

be prepared for that kind of transition. But I would definitely say sync these up as early

as you can, sync your toddler up to one of the naps times of the baby as soon as possible. Sometimes

that's the afternoon. Oftentimes babies take two or three naps a day. And so you just want to

sync up probably

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