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Welcome, everybody.

It's Thursday, October 16th, 2014. And Carla Garrick of the Free State Project joins us once again. We'll talk a little bit about the Free State Project, but there are two areas of her life that I want to discuss. One involves a recent arrest and police confrontation in which she was vindicated,

and secondly, she grew up in South Africa. So I'm also curious to find out a little something

about what life in South Africa was like. Carla, welcome back to the show. Hi, Tom. Thanks so much for having me.

There's so much more to talk about with you than just the Free State Project, but yet,

of course, since you're, what's the official title?

Are you the president of the Free State Project?

Indeed, yes.

Okay, so naturally that's what people initially want to talk about, and we devoted

a whole episode of this show some time ago to the Free State Project. We'll get to that a little bit later.

I want to talk a little bit about you, because it is interesting how you got to be the president

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