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🗓️ 22 March 2025
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Kelley Vlahos discusses the conflict inside the Trump White House between interventionism on the one hand and realism and restraint on the other, with the recent rejection of Lt. Col. Daniel Davis as a case in point.
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0:00.0 | get ready to take a flamethrower to the official narrative and learn what the elites don't want you to know |
0:08.3 | you're listening to the tom woods show hi everybody tom woods here it's episode two two six hundred twenty22 of the Tom Woods show. And Kelly, I think you've been on the show with me before, but I think it's been quite a while. So it is... |
0:28.6 | On time. Yeah. So when I say welcome back, I mean, it's like the whole world is different from the last time you were here with me. |
0:36.6 | For sure. You are a senior advisor at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, I think, |
0:42.3 | may be the full title. |
0:43.7 | And you're Editorial Director of the Publication Responsible Statecraft. |
0:47.9 | So I think I get that right. |
0:49.7 | I do want to say very briefly, as I said a couple of episodes ago, |
0:53.4 | I realize that my background here is not what people have come to expect. |
0:59.0 | I look like I'm in, you know, like a Senegalese prison and I'm about to dictate a ransom note or something. |
1:05.1 | But this is what New York hotel rooms look like. |
1:08.1 | You know, they're barren and terrible. So, all right. So, but that's not. |
1:14.0 | And you're paying for the privilege, too. Exactly. I haven't put, the money is going for the, |
1:18.8 | the privilege to be in this great city at this, at this moment. Well, let's talk about some things that have |
1:25.3 | been going on relating to foreign policy. |
1:27.8 | And I want to start with an issue from last week involving a Daniel Davis. |
1:34.0 | And I have to admit, I now realize I should have known about him. |
1:38.0 | I should have known who he was. |
1:39.9 | And it's my fault that I didn't. |
1:41.4 | But he is, let's say, the latest example of somebody who had opinions on foreign policy that are entirely defensible, that I myself would defend, but that are considered absolutely beyond the pale by the bipartisan foreign policy establishment, |
2:01.7 | rumors of whose death are greatly exaggerated, |
2:04.5 | which is still very, very much a presence in American life. |
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