Ep. 262: Terry Burnham Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
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Michael Covel
4.6 • 732 Ratings
🗓️ 4 August 2014
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
My guest today is Terry Burnham, an economist who studies the biological and evolutionary basis of human behavior. He has a Ph.D. in Business Economics from Harvard University, a Masters from the MIT Sloan School with a concentration in finance. Terry was a professor at the Harvard Kennedy School, the University of Michigan, and the Harvard Business School. His non-academic experiences include working briefly for Goldman, Sachs & Co., being the chief financial officer for Progenics Pharmaceuticals , a start-up biotechnology company, and being the director of portfolio management for Acadian Asset Management, a quantitative equity manager.
The topic is his book Mean Markets and Lizard Brains: How to Profit from the New Science of Irrationality.
In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:
- Burnham removed $1 million from his Bank of America account and said "I don't trust the banks"
- The two ways to think about risk
- Separating the ideas of luck and skill
- The lizard brain and how it relates back to our choices
- A story about interacting with Paul Tudor Jones
- Why markets have momentum
- The great driver of conformity
- Rationality and irrationality
- Captive chimps vs. chimps in the wild and the differences in behavior
- Predicting when the Fed will step in
- Thinking of the worst case scenario for equities and looking to Japan for an example
- Negative interest rates
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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive. |
| 0:10.9 | Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings. |
| 0:21.2 | I am your host, Michael Covel. |
| 0:24.0 | Not filtered, raw, honest. |
| 0:27.3 | That's my passion. |
| 0:32.7 | Today in the show I have Terry Burnham. |
| 0:35.0 | He's an economist. |
| 0:36.0 | He studies the biological and evolutionary basis of human behavior. |
| 0:41.0 | His book, Mean Markets and Lizard Brains. |
| 0:45.0 | Great stuff. |
| 0:46.6 | Enjoyed this conversation. |
| 0:48.4 | Terry brings a little doom and gloom to it. |
| 0:51.1 | But he's going to make you think. |
| 0:53.5 | I promise you that. I promise you that. |
| 0:55.2 | I hope you enjoy. |
| 1:03.8 | Hey, how are you? |
| 1:06.0 | I'm well, thanks. |
| 1:06.6 | How you doing? |
| 1:07.5 | That's too bad. |
| 1:08.3 | I feel like in many ways, mean i really appreciate your work but |
| 1:12.0 | i start to realize in going through and preparing that uh we we both know several several people at |
| 1:18.5 | least and i thought i didn't realize that vernon smith was your graduate school advisor |
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