Hello and

welcome to episode 257 of the Thinking El-Sat Podcast in my parents guest bedroom in Ripon, California, I'm Nathan Fox, with me in Vienna, Virginia. Ben Olson, you're back from the beach, Ben? Yeah.

Awesome, today on the show, we have an interview.

We already recorded with Aaron Taylor of Access Lex. I'm excited for everybody to hear this interview Ben.

I think that that was awesome.

I think Aaron is going to be a big hit talking about what we can do to fix law schools in lots of different ways.

We're also going to talk about news, I guess we'll lead with this news from the July Elsat Flex where Elsack just lost some of the scores.

I really

want to know what percentage. They say it's a very small percentage, but as we know from

Elsat studies, small percentage or even very small percentage is an inherently subjective term.

And we have no idea what that might mean.

They also, by the way, side note, they referred to 25 people at one point in one of their emails I maybe we'll get to that today but at first I was like oh only 25 people lost and then I reread the sentence and it was like 25 people of a certain group and it was like oh okay

Right it could be a lot larger well yeah they're talking about 25 who are applying this.

Oh, yeah, that's what it was, that's what it was, yeah,

which no one should be doing.

That should be a microscopic percentage of the people who are taking the July test.

So they lost 25 of the scores of the people who are applying this fall right now,

which is crazy. I mean, imagine that stress, but that's probably the best thing that ever happened to those people by the way.

Like if you're trying to get a score right now to go to in July to go to law school in September, you are doing it wrong.

So they did you a favor maybe.

Anyway, we'll get to that.

We also have a report from a student who went from a 1.52 to a 177 on seven on their else at

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