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Hey everybody, Tom Woods here. It's episode 2,564 of the Tom Woods show, and I'm delighted to be joined once again by Kevin Dolan, whom I just spent last weekend with in Boston. Kevin is the founder of Exit, which you can find at exitgroup.us, which is, I guess I would describe it, and you can fill in any

blanks or correct any errors, but as a kind of a fraternity in which the men involved are seeking

to better themselves in one way or another, improve their, if not job prospects, then the likelihood of their

entrepreneurial successes, and to build kind of sovereignty and independence for themselves and

their families, so they're not so wedded to the man, quote unquote. But that does not mean

necessarily that they're going off grid and they're going to live in the woods and hunt for their sustenance.

It doesn't have to mean that. It just means that you can make a living regardless of what Anthony Fauci says,

that kind of thing. So welcome, Kevin. Welcome back to the show. It's great to be hearing that.

Yeah, that's a great sum up. It's basically we want to be aspirational, successful, sovereign,

so that we can have grandkids. Yes, indeed. And

Kevin is also the director of the accountability groups program at my Tom Woods School of Life,

and we've done a lot of great things for a lot of people there. Onebucktrial.com is how you can

give that a try. So let's talk about your big project these days, and we'll talk about

the concerns that you have that led you to do something like this, because I'm telling you,

putting on an event, people, is vastly more difficult logistically and takes a lot more out

of you than you think, and costs more. Like, every aspect of it is worse than you thought it would be when you took the project on.

So Kevin in particular is running NatalCon, which is a natalist conference that is seeking to try to come up with solutions to the problem of falling birth rates. And this is not a problem

that's exclusive to the Western world. We see this in many other places too. Now, Kevin, not all that

long ago. And in fact, in some circles, we still hear it. We were told that the real problem was the

quote unquote population bomb that was about to explode and the population of

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