EP 253: Sleep, with Michael Gradisar

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode, sleep psychologist and researcher Michael Gradisar joins Annie Grace to talk about how the first stages of removing alcohol are like insomnia and how sleep deprivation keeps us trapped in the vicious cycle of starting and stopping drinking. Michael explains how sleep hygiene and cognitive behavior therapy techniques help invite sleep and talks about how dreams can help in our journey to become and remain alcohol free.

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0:00.0	This is Annie Grace and you're listening to this naked mind podcast where without judgment,
0:16.0	pain or rules, we explore the role of alcohol in our lives and culture.
0:20.2	This is Annie Grace and I'm so excited today to be here with Michael.
0:32.0	Now Michael is a sleep practitioner, a sleep scientist, a sleep expert, and this is going
0:37.9	to bring so much knowledge.
0:38.9	And one of the biggest questions I get, especially for people going through the alcohol experiment
0:44.0	or through people, you know, trying to change their relationship with alcohol, is like,
0:47.6	well, how do I sleep?
0:48.6	How do I sleep without it?
0:49.6	And I know for me, Michael, I remember that for a very long time, I don't remember falling
0:54.4	asleep.
0:55.4	I remember drinking not necessarily until I was like passed out, but drinking until it was
0:59.1	like, it was almost like it was like a, my consciousness went like this and then boom.
1:04.0	And I remember after I stopped drinking me like, wow, you can be awake until you're asleep.
1:08.4	Like you can be fully conscious and aware until you're asleep.
1:10.8	Like that, that hadn't happened.
1:12.3	I'd always had this like kind of like slow dimming effects until lights out.
1:17.2	And then I realized too, and I'm sure we'll get into this, that that moment of falling
1:23.5	asleep is actually one of the coolest moments of your entire day, because you enter this
1:28.4	like amazing kind of blissful, like liminal space.
1:34.0	And it's just really nice in that moment when I started to get into meditation, I realized
1:38.6	that that feeling is actually the feeling that, you know, you're kind of looking for
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