Ep. 250 A Litany of Abuses with Ali Winston and Darwin BondGraham

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Today we're joined by two award-winning journalists from the field of criminal justice and police misconduct. Ali Winston and Darwin BondGraham have coauthored the book The Riders Come Out at Night: Brutality, Corruption, and Cover-Up in Oakland, an exposé following many years of investigation. We get into why they wanted to write about the Oakland Police Department in the first place, and ask whether the police can be reformed. We also discuss how the authors feel their own identities played into their writing of the book.

The Stacks Book Club selection for January is The Meaning of Mariah Carey by Mariah Carey with Michaela Angela Davis. We will discuss the book on January 25th with Chelsea Devantez.

You can find everything we discuss on today's show on The Stacks' website:

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0:00.0	You guys, the live and the stacks tour is underway.
0:03.8	We had an incredible night in Oakland filled with bookish conversations, hot takes, games,
0:08.8	cocktails. If you missed it, I'm sorry, but don't worry, it's not too late to see the stacks live
0:15.3	in one of our next four stops. Join me in Chicago with Samantha Erby on August 27th
0:21.6	in Washington, D.C. with Jason Reynolds on September 24th in New York City with KSA
0:26.9	Laman on September 25th and in LA on October 18th with some extra special guests that we will be
0:33.6	announcing real soon. Tickets are selling fast so head to the stackspodcast.com slash tour and
0:40.6	get your tickets before we sell out. Welcome to the stacks, a podcast about books and the people
0:54.8	who read them. I'm your host Tracy Thomas and today I am speaking with award-winning independent
0:59.4	journalists Olli Winston and Darwin Bond Graham who have co-authored the book The Riders Come
1:04.7	Out at Night, brutality, corruption, and cover-up in Oakland. If you've been listening to the show,
1:09.5	you know this was one of my most anticipated books of 2023 because I am an Oakland native and any
1:15.2	book about my city is important to me. The book examines the Oakland Police Department which has been
1:20.9	the subject of the United States' longest running criminal reform program. Having followed
1:25.8	the department and its stories for 13 years, Olli and Darwin have a lot to share with us about
1:32.0	modern day policing, state violence, and they try to talk about if it's even possible to truly
1:38.1	reform a police department. Our January Book Club pick is Mariah Carey's autobiography, the
1:43.2	meaning of Mariah Carey written with Michaela Angela Davis. We will discuss the book on January 25th
1:49.1	with our guest Chelsea Devontes. Quick reminder, everything we talk about on each episode of
1:54.0	the stacks can be found in the link in the show notes. It's a new year, it's a new you, and if your
1:59.2	resolution was to put a little money behind your favorite independent creators, I have just the
2:03.6	thing for you. It's the stacks back, which is the stacks Patreon community. For as little as five
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