Hello and welcome to episode 245 of the Thinking Elseat Podcast in Los Angeles.

I'm Nathan Fox with me in Vienna

Virginia is Ben Olson what's the latest Ben I had a dream last night and you were in it

Yeah cool what what what I do? you were in it. Wow. Yeah. Cool.

What would I do?

Well, so it, there were a decent part of it that were kind of funny, but I'll save the

listeners the time so they don't get too bored here but the

bottom line was that we had snuck into the Department of Justice I I am 99%

sure well no 100% sure this came from my time working there when I was a law student and in any case

we snuck in and we found some empty desks and pretended to start working there.

We didn't know the password, so I called the help desk and I really just pretended like everything

was normal and you know calm demeanor they gave me the

password and we're just like really helpful and so then we started working but then this person who this

law student I had worked with, her name was Susie, she was there and she was like,

hey I don't recognize you, like you don't work here.

And I was like, yeah I do, and I pulled out this briefcase and it had these like old

case files in it. I'm like this is what I'm working on and she started looking at

it and then she called the client and she's like, hi, I just wanted to follow up on your case and they're like, yeah, and I guess they, in my dream this made sense, but they recognize the number as the DOJ.

So when they picked up, they're like,

hey, Sarah, like, how can we help you?

And that was like the aha moment, you know?

Like they didn't say, hey Ben, how can we help you?

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