Welcome back to the Talos of Tech Podcast, everybody. I am the Drew today, while we are also joined by also Drew. So we got Drew and Drew. I hope you all enjoyed that extra long, beefy episode last week. We were just kind of shooting from the hip and freestyling it because it's been so long.

This time, we will bring subsinence to the table.

Starting with the most important question of them all, Drew, I have to ask, are you on the iOS 17 public beta?

I'm on the dev beta, actually.

I've been on the deaf beta.

Is there... Okay, I'm not on it. Should I...

Should I... Should I jump on it?

Or no?

It's the question, everybody is asking.

You know what?

I think people over-exaggerate how

bad the betas are. Like, I think a over-exaggerate how bad the betas are.

Like, I think a lot of people act like, oh my God, the bugs, they're so unusable.

I've been putting on the dev betas from day one every June since 2016, I think, and I have never had

a brick device. I've never had it

like unusable. In fact,

based on your experience, like you told me last week,

with your frustrations with the camera app and everything,

I don't, I'm like, how could it get much worse?

Like, you got nowhere to go without. I'm saying. So, yeah, I'm like, how could it get much worse? Like, you got nowhere to go.

It's what I'm saying.

So, yeah, I would say, go for it.

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