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Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast that gives you strategies and solutions for creating more happiness in your daily life.

This week we'll talk about a try this at home suggested by our mother

and we'll talk to a claimed writer and podcaster Malcolm Gladwell about his new book, Talking Distrainders,

What We Should Know About The People We Don't Know.

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose studies happiness good habits in human nature.

I'm in New York City and with me is my sister Elizabeth Kraft, who I have been able to see face to face quite a bit recently.

That's me Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA.

Yeah Gretchen we've been having so much fun doing live shows.

Yeah take it on the road and we've got more shows coming up.

Kansas City or hometown.

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