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And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan

Ep. 241: Jesse Rutherford (The Neighbourhood) | How an Unlikely Band Became Inevitable

And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan

And The Writer Is

Music Creation, Artists, Music Interviews, Education, Interviews, Songwriters, Music, Songwriting

4.9 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Today’s guest is the frontman of one of the most defining bands of the 2010s — a songwriter whose voice helped shape an era of alternative pop that still echoes today.


Before arenas. Before permanence. Before “Sweater Weather” became cultural shorthand.


Now, after over a decade of hits, reinvention, and evolution, he looks back on the long arc of The Neighbourhood with clarity — and with honesty about what success did and didn’t solve.


And The Writer Is… Jesse Rutherford of The Neighbourhood!


In this episode of And The Writer Is…, Jesse opens up about:

• Growing up in the industry before he understood it

• The unlikely formation and endurance of The Neighbourhood

• His journey through childhood acting, getting discovered, + losing his dad on the brink of success

• The advice he’d give himself before it worked

• And much more…

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Chapters:

0:00 Intro

2:09 I Never Wanted To Be Alternative


4:02 Why Thousand Oaks Produces Massive Bands

7:39 Becoming a Child Actor at 6


8:35 “My Self-Worth Is Tied to Entertaining”


9:55 Discovered in a Movie Theater at 5


14:16 Reconnecting With His Dad Before He Passed


17:28 Success Without the Fame He Expected

27:10 High School Metalcore Bands

33:17 How The Neighbourhood Formed


36:06 The First Riff of “Sweater Weather”


40:00 Getting Discovered Online by Their Manager


44:23 His Manager’s Warning…

47:20 Writing the Lyrics to “Sweater Weather”


48:42 Pop Writing Rules


55:23 Learning to Let Go of Instant Validation


59:32 Daddy Issues


1:02:30Watching Your Own Lyrics Affect Relationships


1:10:01 Why He Needs Alone Time

1:10:23 Feeling Invisible, the “Chip Chrome” Era


1:11:17 Touring the Same Venues & The Plateau Feeling


1:12:31 Why Chip Chrome Became His Favorite Creative Risk


1:13:48 “You’ve Got to Get People to Look to Listen”

1:16:00 Creative Direction as Identity Control


1:19:30 Self-Sabotage vs Reinvention


1:32:00 Band Brotherhood & Growing Up Together


1:36:00 Legacy, Impact & What Really Matters

1:41:00 Advice to His Younger Self


Hosted by Ross Golan

Produced by Joe London & Jad Saad

Edited by Jad Saad

Post-Production VFX by Pratik Karki

Watercolor Art by Michael White


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Transcript

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0:00.0

You have four of the biggest songs in the history of Spotify.

0:03.0

The first thing that ever happened was Swearerweather.

0:05.0

This is gonna be the ticket out.

0:07.0

I hold so many of my memories with this band.

0:11.0

Like it's been so much of my life, so many relationships that have came and went.

0:15.0

I was a child actor.

0:16.0

I did that from the time I was six.

0:19.0

I've been the kid at the company, like, working my whole life

0:22.8

and wanting dad to give me a shot. And I get these opportunities, but, you know, sometimes it

0:28.7

never seems like it's enough. I had just reconnected with my dad, and then he died. And then

0:34.4

the neighborhood happened. And it's weird, because I have these two these two like flagpole moments in my life where it's like

0:39.1

from one industry to the next, there's pieces missing.

0:42.6

Your fan base is pretty rabid.

0:44.6

Where's your fan base come from?

0:46.4

The music has been the answer.

0:48.3

We took five years off and quadrupled in size.

0:51.6

What's advice you'd give 16 year old version of yourself?

0:55.0

On paper, everything you ever wanted, you are going to get and you're going to be.

1:00.0

But you're just not going to feel like it.

1:02.0

And the way to get there is not going to feel how you thought it was going to feel.

1:07.0

Don't think so much about what everybody else is thinking.

1:10.0

This season is thinking.

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