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So I think we're talking, aren't we, about relationships this time and how therapy and what we've learned in therapy potentially has helped us with relationships

and helped improve them. I think that your relationship, our relationship has

benefited from the fact that I'm older and a bit wiser.

I know myself a bit more.

Excuse me!

No, I genuinely, actually I will take that, Judith, I will take that and swallow it.

I think that both of us, because of the work we have had to do on ourselves,

which has included having therapy. We are able to assess what we have together, what our

relationship is and we are very good acknowledging, sorry to sound so smug here, but we are good

acknowledging how very different we are. Yes I think we are. I think we are good

recognising our own strengths and that's something that I suppose

in therapy you can definitely learn to recognize, not just focus on your weaknesses, you know,

we're not all good at everything are we? And I think that we're quite good at boundaries,

and I think as I've got older

and perhaps a bit better at relationships,

I'm better at those.

Is this when you tell me to shut up?

I think some, no, but come on, I think sometimes thing, you can't unsay things can you, that's one lesson that I think I have learned as I've got

older and and possibly also from therapy is that once once you said something

that's really bugging you about somebody you can't unsay it and you have to look at the thing the bigger picture which is

that you know the relationships have lots of great things going for them.

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