because our bodies is what holds wisdom and what gives us messages. And in such a destructive system,

we disconnect our mind from our body. So we intellectualize everything instead of feel. And so it's

learning to listen to your gut, like for your listeners right now, all the things that we've been

talking about, what is your body saying? Like, is your jaw clenching? Do you have tightness in your chest?

Do you have tightness in your neck and your shoulders? Is your gut? Do you have a pit? Do you feel

nauseous? This is your body speaking and you need to begin to listen because your body has messages

that will help you to trust yourself, to reconnect with yourself, because there's

an innate wisdom in each soul. Your intuition will guide your way, but you have to be able to connect

to that, and that's what was severed. But there is a way. There is a path back to that. Every

single person has that. And it's learning to listen little by little by little.

And be a mess.

You don't have to have the right answer.

Stay in curiosity.

Welcome to the Deconstructionist Podcast.

I'm your host, John Williamson, and there is a version of you

that existed before the expectations, before the labels, before the quiet pressure to become

who you were supposed to be. And for a lot of us, especially those who grew up in religious environments,

that version of ourselves can feel distant, buried under theology, buried under certainty,

buried under the need to be right, or good, or faithful. But what if the journey of

deconstruction isn't just about what we let go of? What if it's about what we recover? Today,

we're joined by our guest, Christy S. Carr, author of The Forgotten Self,

a book that invites us to look beneath the systems, the structures, and even the beliefs we've inherited,

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