Ep. 233: Plato's "Protagoras" on Virtue (Part Two)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

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🗓️ 13 January 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Continuing on the dialogue, where Socrates argues that Protagoras doesn't actually know what virtue is, because he thinks that the various virtues (especially courage) are distinct, a claim that Socrates refutes in several (logically suspect) ways.

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0:21.4	Hey, here's a thing to the partially examined life episode 233 on Plato's dialogue,
0:35.0	Protagris, part two.
0:36.9	So I think we're finally done with Protagris's long speech.
0:40.3	That's about seven pages of this 40-page dialogue.
0:44.0	The great speech.
0:45.0	But I think it's only fair that we gave him so much emphasis to try to represent his view
0:50.0	and discuss that independently.
0:52.2	But this dialogue goes on a lot.
0:54.6	A lot more after that.
0:56.5	Through lots of twists and turns, it seems like it's mostly at least Socrates tries to
1:01.7	focus it mostly on, you're saying virtue is teachable.
1:05.2	Well, you don't even know what the hell virtue is.
1:06.9	In fact, I'm just going to ask you one thing about it.
1:09.0	Are all the virtues one in the same thing?
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