Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Tatecast.

My name is Davis-Matic.

You guys can find me on Twitter at Davis-Matic.

In this episode of the show, I'm joined by Dees-Fi.

You can follow him on Twitter at D-E-E-Z-E-F-I.

You guys are probably pretty familiar with him if you are listening to the show.

He is one of the OGs, one of the biggest thought

leaders in the NFT space. He works with former guest of the show Andy at Fractional is,

you know, definitely a huge thought leader in the space. You can find his, you can find his

Twitter spaces almost daily.

And yeah, we just have a good conversation about the NFT space, the crypto space in general.

I thought he had a lot of very interesting and articulate things to say.

And now let's go ahead and get into the episode.

All right, everyone, very excited to be joined by a pillar of the NFT community, a frequent spaces host.

Mr. Mr. D's Fai, we are here.

I DM'd you.

I said, hey, man, are you interested coming on the show? And I have to say,

it really is 50-50 DMing people in in crypto who are, you know, who have followings. Like some

people will just straight up big time me and, and not even respond. Some people will, some people will be like, you know, I don't have the

time, but I very much appreciate you coming on. Oh, absolutely, man. I probably knew about you

before you knew about me just from my foray into DFS back. And I don't even remember, remember like 2013. I played like really low stakes to

basically pay for weed in college from like 2013 to 2017. And then around 2017, I realized like

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