You're listening to Reading Glasses, a show about book culture and literary life designed

to help you read better.

I'm author and book devourer Mallory O'Mara, and I'm Brea Grant, filmmaker and e-reader.

This episode, we're diving into how publishers choose the different fonts and margins in books

with special guests, Lauren Panna Pinto, creative director of Orbit, which is also one of Mallory's

best friends. We're digging into the nerdy shit in this episode, so get ready, pull out your little

nerd glasses. Those are next year reading glasses. There's the reading glasses, and then there's

some nerd glasses right next to them, because we're going to talk about fonts, margins, all the things

that y'all want to talk about. It's going to be great. And we took a bunch of listener questions

for Lauren for this episode, so stay tuned for that. But first, what are you reading, Brea?

I'm reading Five's by Mary Roach, which has little no effect about me. There was for a while,

it was a very popular series on television, or I don't know if it was on television, but there

was a win animals attack type series. People would send me these videos because as long as the

people didn't get hurt, if like a goose chases someone down, I was like, this is very funny. I just

could not get over how funny it is to see someone like trying to dodge a bird or something, or you're

like, yeah, I don't know. It's just funny. But I, this one is about win animals, break the law,

and like what they do, and like there's a whole first part is about bears and how bears get into

places they're not supposed to be in Colorado and people's kitchens. They'll just walk in and open

a refrigerator. And it's, I mean, definitely trigger warnings for people who, for, if you're sensitive

to animals getting killed for things like that or being put down, then she also like goes to

India and's like, oh, look at how differently they treat the animals here, but she doesn't demonize

anyone, which I also appreciate. Or the animals. It's just like, here's what's happening. Here's how

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