As we begin to dive into the next two to five years, and we see a lot of these technologies coming forward,

you're going to start to see not just our forces, but many other forces adopting virtual reality,

augmented reality.

We need to recognize that the threat space is also becoming morphable, on-demand, real-time,

with actors that are not identifiable to us.

So we need to have a different level of resilience, future readiness, and we need to have a more

distributed, agile set of forces and sensing capabilities.

Welcome back to another Modern War Institute podcast.

I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI.

Captain Jake Moraldi will be back for our next episode, but today I'm going to share a discussion I had on the sidelines of a recent conference on robotics, artificial intelligence, and autonomy.

The conference was organized by the U.S. Army's Mad Scientist Initiative, a program within the Army's training and doctor's command, and hosted in cooperation with the Georgia Tech Research Institute.

I had an opportunity to sit down with two fascinating people, U.S. Air Force Major Jen Snow and Dr. James Canton.

As always, the views expressed in this podcast are those of the participants and don't represent the official position of any agency of the U.S. government.

I'm here at the Mad Scientist Conference on Robotics, AI, and Autonomy, speaking with Dr. James Canton and Major Jen Snow. You're going to have them

introduce themselves, Dr. Canton. Yes, thanks for inviting me. I am CEO Chairman Chief Futures

at the Institute for Global Futures. We're a San Francisco-based think tank that advises startups,

corporations, government, defense, intelligence on what's coming next in the future,

author of a couple of books, and Chief Disruptor in Charge.

That's the title I think a lot would aspire to.

And Major Snow?

Hi, my name's Jen Snow.

I work at Softworks and the Donovan Group for U.S. Special Operations Command,

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