Ep 228: The Crucial Foundations for Critical Thought, History & Religion | Dr Jordan Grant
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Alec Zeck
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🗓️ 27 March 2026
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If we want to find the truth in anything, we first need to know how truth, knowledge, and thought work.
I sit down with Dr. Jordan Grant, a board-certified urologist who left conventional practice to rethink health, knowledge, and belief. His medical background raises a deeper question: how do you know anything at all?
We break down why every claim to knowledge depends on unproven starting points. Most of what people call knowledge is closer to assumption than certainty. This shows up clearly in healthcare, where people are taught to trust experts without understanding how those conclusions are formed.
You’ll also hear how stepping away from traditional urology led to a more integrated approach that considers physical, mental, and spiritual health together.
This is for listeners who are already questioning what they’ve been told and want a clearer way to think about truth, health, and authority.
You’ll Learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[07:53] The problem of the criterion: why every knowledge claim gets stuck in a loop
[17:46] Why we were conditioned to see belief as the enemy of knowing
[37:43] The big bang and evolution aren't science, they're cosmologies
[50:15] Why principles must trump pragmatism in politics
[01:15:10] Why the scientific method cannot actually be followed
[01:35:04] Believing a false story can physically change what your body does
[01:48:58] Germ theory, statism, and materialism all share the same fighting worldview
[02:05:32] Dispensationalism's do-nothing worldview is a practical failure
[02:19:49] Prayer as surrender, not strategy, and what omniscience means for how it works
[02:41:15] How to evaluate truth claims and avoid nihilism
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| 0:00.0 | We think we know better. And that's why people make up origin stories. That's why we have the Big Bang. That's why we have evolution. None of that is quote unquote scientific. God, the one who created you is the only one that can tell you the actual true meaning of anything. You can't know without belief. Everyone starts with belief. Because if you don't, you'll never start. Antibodies don't exist in the way they claim. |
| 0:21.9 | Nobody's ever seen these Y-shaped, all those receptors. |
| 0:24.0 | Think about the claims made about cholesterol. |
| 0:25.7 | You don't even have to go this route to kind of falsify the notion that cholesterol is causing |
| 0:29.0 | heart disease. |
| 0:29.7 | But once you do, all this goes out the window. |
| 0:32.2 | Part of the reason why society is so chaotic right now is that people don't have a shared starting point to |
| 0:39.3 | evaluate their beliefs, their principles, their values. I don't believe in free will because can I |
| 0:45.2 | freely will myself to believe I'm a female cat right now? I'm free to do it, but my desires and my |
| 0:50.8 | deepest convictions would show that am I free then? Dr. Jordan Gray, I almost called you Mr. Jordan Grant. I don't think you would have been offended by that at all. Not at all. I have yet to get used to being called doctor and probably never will. Right, exactly. Especially because you've come to understand that so much of your medical training was, you know, a lot of nonsense. And appealing to credentials, it doesn't really matter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but thanks for joining me on the show again, man. Man, I'm happy to be back. I love it. |
| 1:44.5 | Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course, man. I consider you one of the deepest thinkers that I know. And we're also talking about how that can sometimes be a little bit of a trap because we can, you know, tend to be caught up in our mind so much. And I want to talk about that a little bit. Absolutely. Especially because you seem to have sort of softened that a little bit and learn to like really pull yourself out of your head, so to speak, and just be even more comfortable with like, I don't freaking know. Yeah. So I got to go with what's useful, quote unquote. With that being said, I would like to start by playing a video. |
| 1:50.6 | We mentioned it in our last podcast episode. I'm going to link our last podcast episode in the show notes because I kind of want to build off of that one a little bit. But we mentioned a video |
| 1:55.7 | called The Problem of the Criterion and we didn't actually play the video. I think I did link that in the show notes. But with that being said, we're going to play the video and I want to hear your comments on it because it took me a few times to watch this video to really grasp what it's saying. So we'll go ahead and play the video and then I want to hear your comments on it. Welcome back to carda 80s.org. Today we're going to be looking at something called the problem of the Criterion. This is a problem posed by Roderick Chrism, and it's a problem for the very |
| 2:23.9 | foundations of knowledge. A quick caution before we get going, this is a basic introduction to the |
| 2:29.7 | problem of the criterion. If you want more information, you should check out Theory of Knowledge by Roderick |
| 2:34.7 | M. Chrism or the entry on Roger Crism in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. With that |
| 2:40.7 | out of the way, let's get started. Now, this is going to be a problem for the very beginning of |
| 2:45.8 | knowledge. It's the beginning of our process of trying to find knowledge. Chrism claims that we can either answer the question, what can we know, or what is the |
| 2:56.9 | criteria of knowledge, but we're unable to answer both of them. |
| 3:00.8 | Basically, if we answer the question, what can we know first, then we're going to be |
| 3:07.2 | arbitrarily deciding what we do know and what we |
| 3:09.7 | don't know without really a good criterion for separating them. But if we answer the other question, |
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