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What's up everybody? Welcome to Podcast number 225 on your host, Reality Steve.

Thank you for tuning in.

Rachel for you again this week. Another Temptation Island guest last week we had Kendall Kirkland.

The other half of that couple on Temptation Island is his girlfriend, Erica Washington.

And she's joining us today. And if you listened to Kendall last week you can listen to

Erica this week and maybe compare notes. And we go over some of the stuff that Kendall said and

Erica's very open and honest in all the questions that I ask her and you can do your own digging if you'd like.

So we'll get to that momentarily. Obviously yesterday was a big day and that I revealed the

twist that you're going to see on Monday the after the final rose. If you did not read yesterday either

my Instagram or my Twitter or read my column and you don't want to know then I guess plug your

ears for the next 30 seconds to a minute. But so that's the basics of what goes down on Monday

at the after the final rose is that Katie is announced as the Bachelorette. But in addition

Michelle is also announced as the Bachelorette. I don't know what order it actually happens in

but they did show a clip on the after the final rose of a manual on one of the bachelor sites.

And you hear a manual saying we've got a curveball coming up that's what this is because when they

filmed that show for a month I've been saying Katie's the Bachelorette earlier that week before

they taped I said Katie will be named the Bachelorette earlier this week. So I'm guessing that's why

they have a manual saying that to make people think that it's not Katie or whatever the case may be.

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