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Today we welcome in our friend Patrick Carver, digital marketing entrepreneur, best known as the founder and CEO of Constellation Marketing, a niche agency specializing in law firm marketing. Patrick, how's it going?

It is good. How are you doing, man? Good, man. It's great to finally get you on. I will say,

you know, you're probably one of the first digital marketing companies that we as lawyer stories,

like, talk to. And, you know, I definitely through the years, like, understand it. I think a little bit better what you do i definitely through the years like understand it i

think a little bit better what you do not all the technicalities but um you know we want to just like

thank you for your support and constellation marketing's always always been there we always we always

appreciate you guys so thanks for your support uh throughout these few years for sure man and it, I mean, I think when we first start talking, you know, you've done like 10 of these or something, you know, something. But, I mean, just to see, like, how far you've taken it is awesome. So respect. Thanks. Appreciate it, man. So fun fact about Patrick, you're from Missouri. That's awesome, man.

Like, what part of Missouri and what was it like growing up on the farm there or whatever?

Yeah, I appreciate the kindness there, you know, making Missouri sound interesting.

But so I was, I grew up in Springfield, Missouri, and there's two things we're known for.

It's the headquarters of Bass Pro Shops.

And it's it's also the home of Brad Pitt.

So those are, yeah, we got a couple other like, you know, odd facts, but that's, that's generally what folks know us for.

What about the Simpsons is that

they're from springfield but we never knew like wood springfield right yeah i remember the

springfield you might be too young probably no no no i i know it and in my um i'm not like a

huge you know i'm not like a diehard i like the simpsons but i'm not a diehard fan or anything

but my contention is um i think they reveal it at some point but if not i'll i'll still go with my my contention which is you know they try to make it about a spring a nondescript town in the middle of america look on a map it's springfield missouri yeah there you know i mean i'm not a huge I liked it when I was a kid, but I never, a lot of people got back into it, not really me so much. So tell us how you discovered the niche. I know we had like a brief talk once about, you know, and something that kind of piqued my interest about what you're doing is that like your dad is a criminal defense attorney in Missouri still and you kind of went the marketing route so like tell me a little bit

about that yeah for sure so I was kind of bouncing around after college with like some

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