Hello and welcome to episode 223 of the Thinking Elseat Podcast in Los Angeles I Nathan Fox, with me in Vienna, Virginia, Ben Olson. Ben, any news to share with the crowd?

Uh, nothing big. Have I told you that I'm watching the show Mars on Netflix?

Uh, no. Oh, yeah. I mean, I really like it. It's not your typical show.

It's not science fiction. It's science future.

Like it's a show that tries to

realistically predict what will happen when we go to Mars.

It's a speculative documentary. Yes, but they do a good job because they keep

going back and forth between 2016 when I think it was made and 2000. and

the like show you, you know, something, you know, something,

you know, something, something will happen with the people on Mars and you you kind of wondering like I wonder if that would actually happen and then they flash back to 2016 and they parallel it with things that are happening here.

So like fighting over resources and they're like,

look, this kind of stuff has happened here.

It's not very unlikely that this wouldn't continue it probably would in similar ways and yeah

it's just like this show that kind of tries to grapple with what is likely to happen and the technological

challenges but also just like the human aspect of it and how people would likely interact

in a place far away. Yeah, it's cool. I like it, but it's only two seasons and I'm almost done.

Awesome. That sounds interesting. Do you think, how realistic is it that like you will go to space at some point during your lifetime?

That's a good question. I my gut reaction is that it's not super realistic, but the reality is that change is happening and it's happening exponentially faster every decade, right?

So I imagine by the time I'm 60, it will, like 20 years from now, it will be like,

duh, yeah. I don't know though at the same time remember

when we landed on the moon everybody was like okay ten years from now we're

going to be hitting Mars, but then the political will fell out.

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