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The Family Teams Podcast

Ep. 220 | What You Win People With is What You Win People To

The Family Teams Podcast

Jeff Bethke

Religion & Spirituality, Kids & Family, Christianity, Parenting

4.9729 Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2019

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Jeremy and Jeff discuss winning people over.

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0:00.0

Imagine what it would be like to come to faith in Jesus at a table where you are seeing the fruit of the gospel in a family.

0:12.4

What's up guys? Jeff and Jeremy here, another episode of Five Minute Fatherhood.

0:16.6

Fun topic today, evangelism through the home, another way to say it that you need to be thinking

0:21.3

through as a father is what you win people with is what you win people too. And I think Jeremy's

0:25.7

going to talk about this for people outside of the family. But I'm thinking about this with little

0:30.9

kids as like the kids themselves, right, until we get to that next level. And so very, very important.

0:36.3

And here's what we mean by that, guys. Whatever you attract people with is what you have to keep them with. That's just like basic biology, science, basic, you know, metaphors. It just, it makes sense all across the board. Whatever we're talking about, the what you attract them with is what you kind of usually have to keep them with or else it's just a bait and switch and then people leave. And so evangelism, you know, capturing people's hearts for the Lord, you have to ask yourself, which ways are you doing that? Now, in the Western model, it's very much event-centric, big, blowout, huge party, and then kind of talk about Jesus. And I think even with our own kids, we send to do that. we think of the Awanas or we think of the, what's the one in the summer, VBS or the big, whatever. And those are helpful tools. Let me hear that. Say that. I actually love Awanhas and some of these other ones. I think they're enormously helpful in equipping. But those are not the things, but Awanhas is not going to be around when they're 25, right? And so for me,

1:28.4

it's like that's not the thing that I'm trying to make sure that we grab and hold them with.

1:32.8

That's an enormously helpful addition to the diet. Those are two different things. And so one way

1:37.9

that we like to think about it is like, how are we putting in rituals that actually are not

1:43.6

only the things that we attract the kids with. Like basically,

1:46.1

where do we center spirituality? We center it not only in the home, but then at the table

1:49.6

at meals, right? Because here's why. Because when they're 15, when they're 25, when they're

1:54.4

five, when they're 80, they still have to eat. It's pretty basic, right? That's pretty basic.

1:59.5

They're like, we're going to be sitting here

2:00.8

and they're kind of a captive audience and they have to eat sooner or later. So why would we

2:05.6

not talk about Jesus here? And so infusing it there for us is actually very strategic because

2:10.4

it's very, very like, I want to make it as much infused into our normal life rather than something

2:16.4

that happens outside of our normal life just simply because of the retainment level of the thing. Now, Jeremy,

2:22.3

you guys have done almost the exact same thing, but then with your kids walking with the

2:25.2

Lord, teenagers, you know, some of young adults, the next layer of then actually bringing other

2:29.9

people into that table. But talk about that. Yeah, yeah. So I want to kind of walk through you guys,

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