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Oh, well, we've had a pre-show gossip that we can't share with our listeners because

showbiz wasn't it? It was a showbiz. It was a very showbiz. And there was a little

knot slander, I wouldn't say. But we bitched a little bit. Well, of course we did. That

showbiz gossip. We don't want to share it because we don't want you to think less of

us. I think they've got, I think they've got the

measure of us, Jenny. I think secretly and I think a lot of them would have really enjoyed

our pre-show bitch as you don't do. I've no doubt. I've no doubt because they're like us

as well. They're not very now under the skin, under the smiling skin. Most of us aren't

very now. Vile, some vile, this isn't the vile. Vile, vile women. And we're proud to be

vile women. Hey, Judith, I don't know about you, but it's Autumn in London. Autumn, I

know. And raining. And she knew, well, if it hasn't rained for a bit, you sort of forget

how annoying rain is. It's annoying. It makes life hard work. Now, tell me this. Have

you got an electric light on where you're recording from? Several. Have you? Several.

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