So, Vody, the subtitle for your book is Can Faith Thrive in a post-Christian culture?

So for our listeners, explain what you mean by post-Christian culture.

Yeah, you know, that's a phrase I borrow from Francis Schaefer, and it's interesting for him to have been talking about post-Christian culture.

During his time.

And what I mean by that is not that Christianity is gone, right?

That all Vestiges of Christianity have faded away,

because that's not true.

But the way that I illustrated for people is it's like American culture is a

petulant teenager who's decided I know better, right? I'm going to go out and I'm going to do this. He's not

acknowledging the fact that every tool he has in his toolbox came from his

family that raised him right but he thinks I'm gonna go and

I'm gonna do it on my own yeah that's America yeah as it relates to

Christianity America as it relates to Christianity.

Have you guys ever heard someone say,

wait, should we saw that again, Scotting?

Yeah, I was really...

How did it get so high?

Here we go.

I thought he like re-entered Peabirdy for a second there.

I didn't know if he had hit record or not, but I guess he did.

So I'll just do it again even though we're still going but I will because I like it.

Have you ever heard someone say now do it for all the marbles?

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