Ep. 217: Mark Kurlansky on Saving Salmon

The MeatEater Podcast

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Sports, Wilderness

4.9 • 37.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2020

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Summary

Steven Rinella talks with Mark Kurlansky, Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis.

Topics discussed: Mark being a lifelong fisherman; fisheries and over fishing as only minor problems by comparison; how salmon get hit by everything we do wrong; the 11-foot-high jump of the salmon; Francisco Franco, dictator of Spain and dedicated fly fisherman; the Atlantic Ocean's decreasing carrying capacity; why catch it if you're going to release it?; calibrating the success of salmon stock recovery to population numbers from centuries ago; environmentalists spending too much time trying to stop things rather than fix things; subject as a proxy for your soapbox issue; the problem with solutions; New Deal dam building; dumbed down wild salmon; celebrating the completion of your 33rd book (Salmon: A Fish, the Earth, and the History of Their Common Fate) by beginning to write your 34th book; and more.

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0:00.0	This is the meat eater podcast coming at you shirtless severely bugged bitten in my case
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0:32.1	Alright everybody, not that we have guests, not that we ever have unspecial guests.
0:41.1	Like I don't want former guests who are listening to feel broken, hearted and beaten down
0:48.4	when I say that we have a special guest because they, no one wants to hear that.
0:53.0	But it's like in the specialness of all our guests, there's one that is rising up a
0:59.2	little special right now where we have on author Mark Kralanski.
1:04.0	And I'm sure like everybody out there is familiar with some of his books in my world for sure
1:14.6	being familiar with Mark's book Cod and his book Salt which seemed to make its way you
1:21.0	know onto every coffee table and bookshelf in the country.
1:24.2	Also the author of 1968, the big oyster, a world without fish.
1:31.4	And we're here today to talk about Mark's new book Sam and about Sam and in general.
1:35.8	So welcome Mark thanks for joining us and we're still in like our COVID-19 recording situation
1:41.2	where much to much to my sugar in we are not in the same room together.
1:47.6	Mark is is holed up in Manhattan but thanks for joining us Mark.
1:52.4	It's my pleasure.
1:54.1	Be nice to be in Montana right now but what can I do?
1:57.4	No I think relative to many other places in the country we have it pretty good right
2:02.2	now even though we are still under you know stay at home orders by the government but
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