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I think that we're going to talk about later. And in a rather nasty way, you kind of laughed

at me. Anyway, listen, both of us, we're going to admit this. Both of us have not had exciting

weeks. We've not known. I'm very sorry. But if you started listening to this podcast

from now, may we suggest that you scroll back a bit? Maybe towards, you know, before COVID,

when we're doing exciting things, you know, this is just a particularly dreary week that

we've had and that we do apologise in advance. We do hope you bear with us. Let's see if

we can spin gold from tedium up to an end. Well, you did that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

This is because I had my endoscopy, isn't it? And the proper, you know, this is this is

slightly, well, you're not the only one that could get ill. Go on, then. What's been wrong?

So I have to apologise up front immediately before I forget, because when you had, when

it was to see your specialist still in town in the west end, it's a bit like going to see

a show, isn't it? It's about the same fucking prize. Oh, it's better. You get to sit down,

you get one on one, and you swipe all those tea bags from the posh reception to remember

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