Today, a one-on-one on stage 19 with an amazing person.

This woman was born and raised in abject poverty in rural Virginia.

She is the second of 12 that were crowded into a shack

without any running water. Her earliest views of the world were pretty hopeless and desperate.

But even as a little black girl in Virginia, she knew she had a mission.

Her story is one of the most fascinating American success stories that I have heard through hard work.

She earned degree after degree after degree from Yale, the University of North Carolina,

and she elevated herself in the world. She became a professor at Princeton University, Duke Vanderbilt,

the girl in the shack. She's a lifetime member of the James Madison Society,

that's an international community of scholars affiliated with James Madison Program,

in American ideals and institutions at Princeton University.

She has won so many different awards and honors and degrees.

She's been named dropped by the Supreme Court two times,

once by Justice Anthony Kennedy and again by Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

She has authored or edited nine different books she's always working on,

something she's just started at brand new podcast and she has a new book coming out.

Her book, The New White Nationalism,

its challenge to integration was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize.

That's cool, but what's really amazing is it came out in the early 2000s

and it pretty much predicted what we're going through now.

Our guest, our American's success story, is a natural born rebel and about as American as it gets.

It is an honor to sit with you. I feel like I'm talking to an American icon

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