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The Michael Moore Podcast

Ep. 209: It's Time For "Sublime Madness" (w/ Chris Hedges)

The Michael Moore Podcast

Michael Moore

News, News Commentary

4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2021

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

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Join Michael Moore for a FREE screening of "Fahrenheit 9/11"
Friday, September 10th at 9pm ET

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/a-free-worldwide-screening-of-fahrenheit

A transcript of this episode will soon be available at:
https://rumble.media/category/podcast/transcripts/

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Chris Hedges is one of the great journalists, thinkers, war reporters and truth-tellers of our time. He won the Pulitzer Prize for reporting on global terrorism while at the New York Times, who later fired him for speaking out against the Iraq war.

He joins Michael to speak on Afghanistan, the collapse of the American empire, the upcoming 9/11 anniversary, and the end of abortion rights in Texas (and around the U.S.)

Hedges was a war correspondent for many years and has seen awful human degradation, societies in collapse, social bonds being ruptured, and people turning to “self-destructive behavior and magical thinking.” Alarmingly, he sees all of these signals of decay here in America.

Hedges has also studied the Evangelical Christian Right in America and wrote a prescient book in 2008 titled, “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.” He details the decades-long battle on women’s reproductive rights, the cynical and dishonest methods used to restrict access to abortion and how this pernicious form of fascism has only grown stronger since that book was published.

However, as a teacher, an ordained Presbyterian minister, and a graduate from Harvard’s Divinity School, Hedges draws on the teachings of great philosophers and theologians to lay out a moral imperative for solidarity and struggle and explains why we must not succumb to despair.


Episode Notes:

His most recent piece on the Christian Right in ScheerPost – The evil within us: How Christian fascist ideology led to the Atlanta killings
https://scheerpost.com/2021/03/22/hedges-the-evil-within-us/

Hedges in Truthdig on abortion rights back in 2007 – The Greatest Threat to Choice:
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-greatest-threat-to-choice/

And Hedges’ piece on The Collective Suicide Machine and the Fall of Kabul in ScheerPost:
https://scheerpost.com/2021/07/26/hedges-the-collective-suicide-machine/

You can order “A Bomb in Every Issue How the Short, Unruly Life of Ramparts Magazine Changed America” here:
https://thenewpress.com/books/bomb-every-issue

And pre-order Hedges’ forthcoming book here:
https://bookshop.org/a/1381/9781982154431


 Music in the episode:

"Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)" - George Harrison
https://open.spotify.com/track/4XMRt4xFqLzGs4wDKkSSeu?



Transcript

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0:00.0

Music

0:20.0

Give me love, give me love, give me love

0:24.0

Be so lucky, give me life, give me life, keep me free from birth, give me hope, help me cope with this heavy load trying to turn

0:40.0

Hello everyone, this is Rumble with Michael Moore, I'm Michael Moore and I'm very happy to have you

0:48.0

with me here today, my guest is going to be the great writer, thinker, philosopher, all-round, important voice that many have tried to stifle over the years

1:02.0

but have been unsuccessful, the great Chris Hedges will be joining us, Pulitzer Prize winner

1:08.0

15 years as a foreign correspondent within New York Times until he finally had to come out and say what he had to say at the beginning of the Iraq war, which was this was an immoral

1:17.0

and an illegal war and for that the Times had to show him the door because the Times was so involved in taking us to war, he could not have one of their own talking against it

1:29.0

so he will be my guest here, I want to tell you before we get going that we have a special event coming up here on our new sub-stack operation

1:42.0

you may have heard about it yesterday if you are a sub-stack subscriber, if you were not a subscriber yet to my sub-stack, that's my weekly column and I put my podcast on it

1:52.0

but if you're just a podcast listener, sign up for my sub-stack, it's free, just put your email address in there

1:57.0

and one of the things to sort of help kick off our sub-stack launch is we're going to have a free worldwide screening

2:07.0

next Friday, Friday, September 10th and it will be a screening of my 2004 Palm Door winning film, Fahrenheit 9-11

2:19.0

we are going to do this on the eve of the 20th anniversary of 9-11 and it will be an online event

2:27.0

but all you have to do is if you're not just sign up and become a free subscriber, just sign up at Michaelmore.com

2:33.0

just go there, go to Michaelmore.com, put your email in there and you will have your ticket free for this online event

2:42.0

and we're going to have some special guests that night for Friday, September 10th, it's going to be 9pm, Eastern time, 6pm, Pacific

2:50.0

and if you're in Europe, if you're in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, South America, Antarctica, wherever you're at, you can join in and watch with me

3:00.0

this film that myself and my friends and our crew put together in the 12 months after winning the Oscar for Bullying for Columbine

3:11.0

and we left the Oscars determined, it was the fifth night of the war, the Iraq War, determined to try and bring this war to an end and bring Bush

3:24.0

and his policies to an end and so a year later we came out with Fair 9-11, became the largest grossing documentary of all time, won a whole bunch of awards

3:36.0

and I like to think, helped move the American people away from war a year or so, a year and a half after the film came out

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