You're like the only New Yorker who in the late 70s early 1980s nobody was like hey man

let's go down to this club on the lower east side called CB geebies and we'll go see some

music what I think happened not that I called CBGBs and we'll go see some music.

What I think happened, not that I would have been there any.

I'm sorry, what happened is that our first child was born in 1970.

And my life, you know, life return.

But you used to be a taxi driver.

So did there were some punks get into the car and say, take me to CBGB's old man?

You know, I don't know about the old man stuff. Probably yes. I mean I at the

beginning of I cab driver Korea in 71, 72, 73 I drove nights and then I switched to days and so that the scene stuff is much

more transparent at night. During the day you're taking people back and forth to work

and stuff like that.

The doctor's appointments.

Which did you like more of the night shift or the day shift?

It's really interesting.

The night, after rush hour breaks, it's 8 o'clock, whatever, okay? It becomes much easier to do it, to drive because the streets

are emptier, traffic is not crazy. You drive during the day and for what happened over time was that because of the pressure from the fleet

owners they were concerned not only about how much money you put on the meter but

they also were concerned with how few miles you drove.

They wanted to reduce the kind of the ratio between money and miles.

Because there was the initial fare that you pay to get in.

They wanted you doing nice short trips. Right and you get more and more of them and also that you're not using up as much gas and other kinds of things and so that the only way you could do that response to the pressure was by staying in Manhattan.

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