Ep. 207: A Digital Minimalism Intervention (w/ JAMIE KILSTEIN)

Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Cal Newport

Technology, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, we try something different: a special two-part conversation in which Cal coaches his longtime friend, comedian and podcast pioneer Jamie Kilstein, through a digital declutter. The first part of the conversation ends with Cal’s prescription for Jamie, while the second part picks up six weeks later to check in on how things actually went.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	I'm Cal Newport, and this is Deep Questions, episode 207.
0:20.6	I'm delighted to be back at my beloved Deep Work HQ for the last couple of weeks hiding
0:27.5	out up in the mountains of Vermont because of this trip, though, you'll notice two things
0:33.0	different about today's episode.
0:34.9	Number one, it's a little late.
0:37.8	I wanted to wait until I was back from my trip to record, so we have the poster schedule
0:43.2	just slightly.
0:44.2	We'll be back at our normal schedule again next week.
0:47.5	The other thing you'll notice is that it is not a standard episode format.
0:51.3	It is not me and Jesse answering questions.
0:54.6	Instead, I am experimenting with something a little bit different.
0:58.3	It is a two-part interview, unlike a standard podcast interview, which is more about just
1:04.3	interviewing the guests about their ideas or what they're known for.
1:08.9	This is something more personal.
1:11.7	It is a messy, real-world case study of digital minimalism in action.
1:19.5	Let me give you the quick backstory here.
1:21.6	This two-part interview is with an old friend of mine named Jamie Kielstein, and I really
1:28.0	do mean old friend in the sense that we were friends in elementary school.
1:31.9	That's when we first met.
1:33.0	We grew up in the same town during junior high school.
1:36.5	We played in a rock band together, so it's someone I knew when I was a kid.
1:42.0	Jamie dropped off the radar at some point during high school because he actually literally
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