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This Wreckage

Ep 203 - Literacy is Overrated w/ Ian Svenonius (preview)

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

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Ian Svenonius is a rock singer (Nation of Ulysses, The Make-Up, Chain and the Gang) now turned Marxist polemicist with his new book Against the Written Word.

We discuss his theory of literacy as a tool of the bourgeoisie and how rock n' roll reeducation camps might be the antidote, and why that might not go far enough for as to completely devolve to our neanderthal origins.

Buy Against the Written Word from Akashic Books

Interview with Ian about being the "sassiest boy in America" and why the workers are rock-and-roll

Read John Zerzan on The Failure of Symbolic Thought

Check out his film The Lost Record

Opening song: Nation of Ulysses - Aspirin Kid

Closing song: The Make-Up - I am Pentagon

Transcript

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And the It seems like really archaic disease. I thought they'd be yeah. Well I got it from having leprosy and it spread to my

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throat so now I'm yeah duly afflicted. Yeah leopardy.

0:36.0

Yeah, leprosy. What else? I obviously bubonic plague.

0:39.0

consumption.

0:41.0

Cala, consumption. I was thinking ch color, but I think color.

0:45.0

What color is still around?

0:48.0

It's still around if your wastewater is not properly contained.

0:52.0

You could still get cholera. Yeah. Well, and then there's always

0:57.6

these diseases that come back that have big comebacks. Yeah.

1:03.0

Like, maybe I should light a candle and say look more better.

1:08.0

Hold on one second.

1:09.0

Oh, we're not going to, Andy's not going to be filming.

1:12.0

Oh, you're not?

1:13.0

Oh, okay, cool.

1:14.0

You can even turn the camera off if you want to, but

1:17.0

some people like to have it on, whatever.

1:20.0

Yeah, it's fine.

1:21.0

Yeah, I know somebody or some people who teach classes and you know on Zoom and half of the students turn the camera off because it's like, you know,

1:30.0

answer, it's weird because they're teaching these black boxes

1:35.8

disembodied voices and shit.

1:38.1

Yeah, I know some people who like get hired to do kind of like corporate responsibility

1:44.0

lectures like maybe you know radical history to like a real estate

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