Be Frank Network.

Welcome to the Happy Never After podcast.

I'm your host, Mara Merrick.

I have a very, very special guest who just had a new album come out.

He's on U-U-U-P.

U-U-P, yeah.

The host of Oop.

Oop.

That's my podcast.

Yeah, Francis Ellis and him have a person.

There's oops and then just o ooh, no. No, it's you up. You up. Yes. And you still have J-Train. Yeah, J-Train and you up. I have two podcasts. So busy. The most embarrassing thing to tell people in the entire world. And then some people are like, no, that's new. You're doing it. Like I think people who don't know that you can just like plug a podcast in and like you could like talk on your phone and be like, this is a podcast. And it's like anyone. Adam Carolla has like seven now. Oh, he's got a network. That's a business. I'm sitting here with two, you know, me talking out of my ass, you know ass I regard who is Donald Trump's divorce lawyer Okay As starting a podcast And exactly This is what I mean Like it's not like you have to be good at Like there's no like HR for podcasts There's not like They're not like send in your resumes. Let's see if you can speak.

Well, he asked me to be, I was like, should I be in a second podcast?

Listen, it's been, I'm not, I am embarrassed to say it.

I enjoy doing both.

So like you up is a dating specific podcast.

J train is a little more me, but we get 90% dating questions um so it's

like they're very similar but like just a little bit of a different taste but um did i say your name

this is jared free everyone oh jared free nice to meet you see i'm so used to podcast that i just host

the show yeah and that's been an issue for me.

Sometimes I go on shows.

Like, I had someone told me my brother was with a girl.

Old or younger.

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