Ep 201: Debunked by Nature with Mollie Engelhart
The Way Forward with Alec Zeck
Alec Zeck
4.8 • 968 Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 209 minutes
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Alec sits down with Mollie Engelhart, regenerative rancher, former vegan chef, and author of Debunked by Nature, for a grounded conversation on the collapse of American farming and how digital control systems threaten food sovereignty. Mollie explains how 170,000 farms have vanished in eight years, how the U.S. became a food importer, and why true freedom starts with reconnecting to the land. Together they explore practical solutions, from SNAP reform to supporting local farmers, and what it means to build resilience through discomfort, family, and community.
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Resources & Links
Website: https://www.sovereigntyranch.com/
Book: Debunked by Nature: https://bookstore.acresusa.com/products/debunked-by-nature?sca_ref=9461068.hEVsCatgGxefjfjK
Debunked by Nature — Official Site: https://debunkedbynature.com
Acres USA YouTube Channel: https://m.youtube.com/@AcresUSAvideos/featured
Related Links
Joel Hollingsworth — "The American Restoration" Letter: https://www.smokeriverranch.com/the-american-restoration-fixing-agriculture-in-america
Black Box Thinking – Book Reference: https://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-Thinking-People-Mistakes-But/dp/1591848229
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| 0:00.0 | I'm |
| 0:02.0 | Oh, |
| 0:03.0 | Oh, |
| 0:04.0 | and |
| 0:05.0 | The Miss Molly Englehart. |
| 0:38.4 | We are just coming off of the incredible event. |
| 0:42.7 | Let me say I'm always just unbelievably stoked to be on Sovereignty Ranch. |
| 0:47.5 | Like it feels like paradise for me. |
| 0:49.8 | It has a special place in my heart. |
| 0:51.9 | Obviously I'm biased because we've done confluence there. But even |
| 0:56.0 | if it's not confluence, like food is medicine, when I just got invited to speak at, gave a talk |
| 1:00.5 | called What is Food? I think it kind of blew people's minds, which was great. Talked a lot about |
| 1:05.5 | Dr. Jail Pollack's work. And for those listening and watching, by the way, I would like to ask for some prayers for |
| 1:12.5 | Dr. Pollock because he's dealing with a pretty significant health issue right now. |
| 1:16.7 | Hopefully by the time this podcast comes out, most of it will have been resolved in some way, |
| 1:21.9 | but please give up some prayers to him. But all that being said, um, anytime I get the chance to spend time on |
| 1:31.3 | Sovereignty Ranch, I just love it. It's it's like paradise. It really is. It's incredible. |
| 1:36.8 | And I know your whole journey of having to just leave everything from California and take a chance |
| 1:42.9 | moving to Texas and to see it turn into |
| 1:46.3 | what it's turned into on that land and just see the potential of what it could become. |
| 1:52.2 | Trying to convince you to put a basketball court on it, but we'll discuss that in another |
| 1:55.7 | time. |
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