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Millie's tenure was extraordinary. He did a great job. He has served honorably, and he deserves our praise and thanks, and he does not deserve what he's receiving from President Trump right now.

You mentioned this new reporting. There is a new piece in the Atlantic, and part of that says that Millie has told friends that he expects if Trump does return to the White House, which he's obviously trying to do, that the newly elected president will come after him.

And Millie has reportedly told people, quote, he'll start throwing people in jail, and I'd be on the top of the list.

Do you think that's a justified concern?

Look, I think it's a legitimate fear. If you recall from my memoir that you mentioned at the top, I cite a circumstance where the president, egged on by his close advisers,

when to call back the active duty Admiral McRaven and General McChrystal, the court marshal them for some things that they allegedly said in the public domain, and Millie and I had to talk the president out of doing that for any number of reasons.

So is it possible that a new loyalist sitting around Trump in the Oval Office will say, let's call up Millie? Yeah, it's quite likely.

Now, the good news is if there's a silver lining in all this, is Trump's kind of poisoned the well.

I don't know that a jury could or anybody would find that he could be given what we would call command influence that such a thing could happen.

But nonetheless, I think it's a legitimate fear. The president also said that a second term would be about retribution, right?

So I think these are all legitimate concerns.

But can we just take a moment and you were his Pentagon chief.

The former defense secretary is saying that it is a legitimate fear that the former commander in chief who is seeking to be the commander in chief again would want to seek retribution against someone like General Millie simply because he doesn't like the way that that that tenure is being reported in books and in articles.

Yeah, and I think simply also because the way Millie conducted himself, which was to offer candid frank advice.

It wasn't what the president wanted to hear because what Millie was saying or he didn't want to hear what I was saying.

Look, he doesn't like that. He wants to find yes men in his office.

And so yeah, he would do that. It's hard for me to believe I'm saying that as well.

I wish I didn't have to say that.

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