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History of the Germans

Ep. 200 – Divide and Lose, the Leipziger Teilung

History of the Germans

Dirk Hoffmann-Becking

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.9550 Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

When two brothers, Ernst and Albrecht of Saxony divided up their enormous inheritance that comprised Thuringia, Meissen and the electorate of Sachsen-Wittenberg, they not only undermined their power base as the de facto #2 amongst the imperial principalities and planted the seed for a conflict that would play a key role in the Reformation but they also laid the foundations for the modern Länder of Thuringia and Saxony.

And this division was not driven by the usual family feud but came after 20 years of largely harmonious government and a shared childhood trauma. Why they took, or had to take this fateful step, is what we will discuss today.

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The Ottonians

Salian Emperors and Investiture Controversy

Fredrick Barbarossa and Early Hohenstaufen

Frederick II Stupor Mundi

Saxony and Eastward Expansion

The Hanseatic League

The Teutonic Knights

The Holy Roman Empire 1250-1356

The Reformation before the Reformation

The Empire in the 15th century

The Fall and Rise of the Habsburgs

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the history of the Germans, episode 200, divide and loose, the Leipzig-Taylung,

0:10.0

which is also episode 15 of season 10, the empire in the 15th century.

0:14.9

When two brothers, Ernst and Albrecht of Saxony divided up their enormous inheritance

0:19.0

that comprised Thuringia, Meissen and the

0:21.4

electorate of Saxon-Wittemark, then not only undermined their power base as the de facto

0:25.9

number two amongst the imperial principalities, and planted the seed for a conflict that would

0:30.9

play a key role in the Reformation, but they also laid the foundations for the modern lender

0:36.3

of Thuringia and Saxony.

0:40.1

And this division was not driven by the usual family feud but came after 20 years of largely

0:45.4

harmonious joint government and a shared childhood trauma.

0:50.6

Why they took or had to take this fateful step is what we will discuss today.

0:57.0

And big, big thank you to all of you who responded to the question I asked last week

1:02.0

about whether you enjoy going down the various rabbit holes that opened up as the Empire fragmented.

1:08.0

I was expecting a somewhat biased result.

1:10.0

After all, anyone who was keen on a straightforward and more rapid narrative is unlikely to

1:15.4

listen for two years in the hope such an acceleration may finally appear.

1:20.3

But what I did not expect was that so many of you contacted me on various channels to tell

1:25.0

me how much they enjoyed these deviations, even going so far as to describe them as the core and the main value they see in the show.

1:33.3

So, no further debate. We'll continue our meandering walk around the Empire.

1:40.3

And since this is the 200th episode, instead of mentioning those patrons whose turn it is to have their names called out,

1:48.0

I will today honor 11 patrons of the show who have been supporting continuously from as long ago as 2021,

1:56.0

and have hence made an outstanding contribution to the show.

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