Hello everyone, it's episode 20 for Rumble with Michael Moore. I'm Michael Moore. Yes, it's

20 episodes. It's day 30. It's all this is. I'm doing doing this for 30 days. This is episode

20. So it's not been every day. It was supposed to be just a weekly I know. But look at all that's

going on. We had no choice. So here we are with our 20th episode. And we just heard that

sometime during this episode are 2 millionth episode will have been downloaded 2 million in just

30 days. 2 million downloads of Rumble. It's. Thank you. I guess that's the thing to say. Whoever's

whatever you are number 2 million out there in which dog Kansas. Thank you. We appreciate it. And

we have been inspired by the response by your comments, by your ideas, all of you who have

written to us who've sent us messages. It's really while this wasn't it didn't turn out to be

what we thought it was going to be just a simple weekly. Howdy high. But that's I guess because the

times we live in the sort of required us to do now more and something else. And so we have ideas

that we'll share with you in the coming days and weeks about that. But for now, thank you for being

part of this. And I have a wonderful guest on the show here today. Her name is Keigh Ann Gattaylor.

She is a wonderful writer, professor, a great thinker. I like thinkers. This is a time when we need

a lot of thinkers. She's an assistant professor of African American studies at Princeton University.

She's the author of a number of books, one of which is called from Black Lives Matter to Black

Liberation. And she also wrote a great book about how African American communities have essentially

been structurally abused in terms of not being able to have good housing and housing that they

can own. She actually teaches a class at Princeton called the public policy in the US racial state.

If you read her writings on this, she writes for the Guardian. She writes for Jacobin magazine.

It's some pretty, pretty powerful stuff. There's a class that she teaches called rats

riots and revolution housing in metropolitan United States. I know. Listen, don't be thinking that I'm

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