I hope we never actually put this show up to any sort of a vote because you know they're going to punish us by putting the wiggles on for us.

We're going to cover season, what is it, 15 of the wiggles. Welcome back to On The Throne, the Shout on TV Podcast, Unofficial Companion piece to the

incomparable HBO series, The Game of Thrones.

I'm one of your host, Gene Lyons,

and alongside me is my co-host, Big D. Dick Ebert.

Good evening.

Welcome back, D.

Hey, nice to be here. I appreciate you covering for me yesterday. Hey no problem, it's my pleasure. I was glad to sit down alone with the with the equally pissed off fans and just kind of ruminate.

Yeah, I want to thank everybody for,

you know, we had some people write in direct message

wishing me well and hoping everything was cool at home.

And I figured I would tell you, I'm going to talk to my wife about it.

You know, sometimes on the podcast we talk about our personal lives and what's going on at home.

And my wife and I had been trying for six years

to have a child within vitro.

My wife, unfortunately, has difficulties

just having children naturally,

so we had to go to the route and we were blessed two years ago

now with the daughter Emma and we still had a couple embryos left. It was our last

chance to get a little brother or sister for Emma.

And unfortunately, the last month has been trying because we were going through treatment.

And then finally, earlier this week we found out it didn't take,

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