But here's the thing, Hugo DeGarris was working at the Brain Research Institute at a university

in China.

He is a spaniard by ancestry, but he was raised in Australia if I remember correctly, but

he went to work in China, and he told me during our interview that they realized when

they were building these neural networks, trying to create an artificial intelligence,

that they didn't understand what was going on inside the black boxes.

That's why they call these neural networks black boxes.

Literally, they don't know what's going on inside.

They know that when they change the input, they get different output.

And so he said, we were doing great engineering and tweaking the input to get the output that

we wanted, but we didn't know why we were getting that output.

We didn't know what was happening between the input and the output.

Thank you for tuning in to Blurry Creatures.

Today we have Derek Gilbert, author, podcaster, all around swell guy, and he sings.

Yep, Derek's known to be in a barbershop quartet or two.

Derek's just a talented dude, and him and his wife have a ton of information.

They've been in this space a long time, they've been podcasting before, it was a thing.

So we're excited to talk to Derek today about the rise of AI, what AI means for us, and

kind of where it's going, and some of the conversations around that.

We've been busy talking about a lot of alien stuff lately, and doing more personal interviews

that people have had experiences.

If you want to listen to some of those episodes, blurrycreatures.com slash members, the ones

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