EP 195 Matcha, Culture, and Clarity: A Japanese-American Perspective
Wabi Sabi - The Perfectly Imperfect Podcast with Candice Kumai
Candice Kumai
4.9 • 793 Ratings
🗓️ 11 November 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, friends, Ohio. Welcome to the Wabi-Sabi podcast. We are only five episodes away from 200 episodes |
| 0:10.3 | when we launched in 2018. I never thought that I would continue this project with you |
| 0:18.5 | throughout the duration of my career. But here we are and we've got a lot going on, |
| 0:26.4 | especially in the world of Macha. Every day I get emailed by different professionals, |
| 0:33.2 | journalists, students studying journalism, Japanese colleagues, you know, still working with the |
| 0:39.9 | consulate of New York for Japan and the Japanese government. I'm going to be very candid in |
| 0:48.9 | today's conversation about matcha because so many people have tried to claim and make it their own. And matcha is not mine. |
| 0:56.5 | Mata belongs to the tea farmers and the monks and the tea purveyors in Japan. I'm virtually just |
| 1:04.2 | the bridge that connects the east and the west because that's how I grew up and that's my bloodline. |
| 1:10.6 | I also think we should be |
| 1:12.5 | much more aware of who we're getting our information from. A lot of people that interview me |
| 1:18.9 | know nothing about Mata and I'm basically teaching them everything I know for an hour and then they |
| 1:27.0 | regurgitate everything I told them. |
| 1:29.9 | When in actuality, I think individuals like myself or my mentor, Rona Tissan, who's also half |
| 1:36.1 | Japanese, half American, I feel like we should be writing these pieces. The reason why I chose |
| 1:42.3 | to do another pod on matcha was because it's such an important |
| 1:46.7 | part of my life and I know it's an important part of yours. It's also got a bigger meaning to it. |
| 1:54.7 | Macha is a Japanese treasure. It's an ingredient that is prized by the hierarchy, the samurai, the aristocrats in |
| 2:06.4 | Japan. It's not necessarily drunk the way we drink it in the Western world, which is |
| 2:13.4 | obliterated. So I got the receipts to back up everything. |
| 2:20.2 | Not that I need that, but I think it's fair to say I was one of the very few people that really introduced Mata to the Western world. |
| 2:31.3 | And I feel a deep responsibility to go back, hit rewind, and be like, hey, hold up, |
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