Like I always knew this was possible, but it comes to a combination. Like some people say, you know, work ethic beats talent, which I agree with. But then once you have some talent and you have that work ethic, that's when you're unstoppable. And that's kind of what I think I had over these past four years was I was, you know, relatively talented just at, you know,

video games and reaction time and intuition and just stuff like that. And then, you know,

that work ethic is what really got me to the next level. And, you know, talent isn't anything

if you don't put in the work. So work ethic, by far is more important than talent. And, you know, the harder

the work, the harder you work, like, you're just going to, you're going to do better than someone

who just is naturally talented. You're listening to the Steady Trade Podcast.

A podcast that inspires traders to make meaningful strides and pursue their passions.

Your hosts are Tim Bowen, the lead trainer at Stocks to Trade Pro, Kim Ann Curtin, the Wall

Street coach, and Stephen Johnson, the up-and-coming trader who's always willing to learn.

Together, we'll sit down with experts to talk about their

process, the lessons they've learned, and discuss how all traders can level up their trading

careers. Welcome back, everyone, to the Steady Trade podcast, back with the whole crew.

Got Kim and Stephen here this week, and then we've also got a repeat guest, which is one of my

favorite guest, Jack Kellogg. I still remember back to, geez, you know, a few, too many podcasts,

but a couple of years ago when Jack was first coming up, got the pleasure of interviewing him.

And man, I remember getting done with that podcast and was just like and jack

maybe he'll remember the day or maybe i can google it but you know it was just like i he was kind

of getting started already had some great success but i just remember ending that podcast i was like

holy crap i mean this guy is work ethic and his focus. And it's like, this guy's got it.

And I know I say that a lot about the, the guests we have. But, man, I was just, I still remember

looking back and, you know, the story of him hustling at his mall kiosk. And then hustling as a, as a valet.

And I'm like, man, this, you know, and he's laser focused on trading. I'm like,

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