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Hey gang, it's me, Dr. Steve, and let me ask you a question. How many of you out there are worried? And I mean really worried that President Trump cannot win in 2024.

And I ask this because just this weekend I read an op-ed in the supposedly conservative Washington Examiner by their editor-in-chief who argued that Trump is basically guaranteed to lead the Republican Party to an electoral disaster in November.

And yeah, ironically, more and more pollsters and pundits are actually coming to the radically opposite conclusion. Not only can Trump win, he's actually better positioned to win now than he's ever been.

Not only can he win, but far from leading the Republicans to an electoral disaster, he's actually the only one. He's the only hope for the GOP in 2024.

In other words, you may have heard this phrase because it's gaining popularity among analysts. For the Republicans, it's Trump or bust. That's actually the exact phrase that was used in the hill piece just a few days back.

But my guest today has been saying those exact words Trump or bust for months now. In fact, he's the very source of the slogan and he's here to share with us why Trump is stronger than ever and why he's actually the only hope for the GOP in 2024.

I know for most of you need, he needs no introduction. You see him on Fox, he's a regular on Steve Bannon's war room, but for those who don't know Rich, he is considered by many myself included to be hands down the single best polling analysts out there by far.

You've got to subscribe to his YouTube channel, follow him on Twitter. I'm a huge fan of his inside the numbers podcast. I was just listening to the live stream. A couple of hours back, he's got a great locals platform of which I'm a proud member. We have links all down. So he offers weekly polling updates and analysis.

And of course, he is the first to have coined Trump or bust. So if you want to know today what the legacy media pollsters are going to be talking about weeks from now, Rich is your guy. So Rich, welcome back, friend. Great to see you.

That was a heck of an introduction and thank you for it. Really, I really appreciate it. There's just two things I got to say off the top. One is, I've been meaning to tell you this, but we haven't spoken.

Your segment with Dr. Borko was was amazing on Newsmax. It was really, it was really one of the best segments have seen in a long time because you're talking about the rise of populism and Europe and everybody was fans really fascinating.

And then secondly, the Trump or bust phrase. I, of course, yeah, I was the first one to use it, but I actually got it from voters.

From voters telling us during interviews, we, when we asked who were you going to vote for, it's Trump or bust. I'm voting for Donald Trump Trump or bust.

And then when we would go on to ask them about other, you know, okay, well, what about Ron DeSantis and Joe Biden, who would you vote for? Then you hear me, Trump or bust, I wouldn't vote.

So this became a real thing. And we always knew it was there because of the empirical evidence, simply showing that voters come out for Trump and that Republicans cannot get it to the polls.

And I wanted to try to measure this. So here we are today.

Yeah. And you've been doing a stellar job. You've been doing an amazing job.

Just the inside the numbers programs have been on fire of late. And your interviews are great. I mean, I'm really, I got to tell you, Rich, I mean, I probably the most common question I've been getting is, but can Trump do it?

Can he really, really do because of all of these op-eds? Because I mean, DeSantis is surrogates one everyone to think, oh, no, there's no way he could win blah, blah, blah, but then what's so brilliant about your analysis is it's actually the exact opposite.

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