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The gentlemen auto awry thank you for being here.

So for those who are listening watching, Arai was on episode 24 way back in April of

2023 when we had the looming threat of central bank digital currency sort of hanging over most people's heads.

Everyone's concerned with that. People are still justifiably concerned with that,

especially with the frenetic, chaotic, uncertain nature of governments, of which you know my

perspective. If you listen to or watch this show quite a bit. I'm a

voluntarious, anarchist, anarchist for lack of a better term. I guess voluntarious and anarcho-capitalists

are the better terms. That's why I typically say those instead of anarchists. But that's my perspective on government.

With that being said, this is the reality we currently find ourselves in.

So before we continue with this conversation, I think it's best that you all just briefly introduce yourself.

Araya, you appeared on episode 24, so we'll let you go second. Otto, if you could introduce yourself. You've been on other shows. I've done so many Instagram lives with you. You're one of my freaking best friends. We've got to just make an official one. Yeah. Otto is officially one of my best friends. I just want to tell you. Okay. Tell anybody else. Please introduce yourself. Thank you, Alec. This is awesome. I'm so happy to be here with you, man. I'm Otto. I've been, I was an accountant for 10 years, CPA for a couple of those years. And then I was in crypto for the last 12 years. And just went through the ringer when it comes to

becoming aware of like the current traditional monetary system. And crypto blockchain in the

last 10 years have really taught me the potential of changing to something different, you know,

really looking at like, oh, this is the first time in history we can actually recreate how we transact and how we move around the energy of exchange.

So now I teach it. And I've been doing that for the last three, four years. And my academy's

a good amount now. We have about 1,500 students I've graduated in the level 2 and 250 in level 3.

So just very excited about the time that we're living right now and for this project that I'm a part of. You know, as that go. Shout out to Andrew Genevieve's for that too. Yeah. I have to get. Yeah. Shout out to Andrew. Yes. Thank you, brother. And just to add a little bit to what Otto does, the reason I'm, you know,

grateful to be friends with him as well. And the reason that he and I work together so much so is that in the world of Web3 and blockchain, to date, it's mostly been hype and just pitching these, you know, rugpole projects that aren't around very long after their initial hype. And when I met Otto, he really knows what he's talking about. He really knows what he's doing. And for those that are interested in just learning the basics, he has a community where he'll handhold you. And that's really cool to know that that even exists out there because most of us don't even know, you know, when we're getting started, where to go and how to learn. It's an incredibly confusing space for most lay people. Yeah. Honestly, it really is. Like, I still struggle to understand Web3 and the differences between that and what we have now. So, yeah. Yeah. So if, you know, if for those of you that are skeptical and also want to know that there's a legit verified individual doing it out there, and, uh, and he's aligned with our values and vision, you know. I know he spoke at Confluence and he's a legit, awesome dude. Thank you, Arai. I appreciate that. You're welcome. Good. I asked you up. I know. Okay, Roy, could you just briefly introduce yourself to you? Sure. Yeah, my name is Ari Beckman. I am the founding partner of the peace through trade blockchain and Zacculcoin.

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