Yeah, I just saw that you guys are doing a publication how I would buy.

We're, yeah, we're talking about a journal and I was stone last night and I had a funny idea for the name of the journal.

You want to hear it?

Yes, please.

And it relates to de-growth, I think.

You're going to be jealous, I came up with this.

Okay, so I want to call the journal

hearts after the game the card game I love hearts yeah because in hearts you

either have to get the least amount of points mmm or you want to get the least amount of points or you want to get zero points or you want to get all the

points and shoot the moon.

And I think that should be, that's like what we do at Woodbine I think is that we try to like kind of

keep everything at like a very horizontal practical level you know not doing

anything not burn ourselves out you know, not doing anything, not burn ourselves out, you know, create the infrastructure

to like continue this project for a long period of time, until we're dealt the right hand and then

shoot the fucking moon.

If you know what I'm talking about.

I know exactly what you mean.

Okay, I don't know exactly what I mean, but...

Sounds good though. I think it kind of title works really well when it sounds a

bit strange but then it takes like one sentence to explain it and then it

there's kind of like a

you know mind explosion happening okay.

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