Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast about ideas and tips for building more happiness

into your daily life.

This week we'll talk about why you might want to make your life more complicated and

about how to deal with the people who refuse to be quiet in a train's quiet car.

I'm Gretchen Riven, a writer whose studies happiness, good habits and human nature.

I'm in New York City and with me is my sister Elizabeth Kraft, whom I often call my sister

the sage.

That's me Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA and I'm with you Gretchen

who I often call my sister the happiness full late.

Before we jump into this week's credits at home, we wanted to give you an update from

episode 185.

Yeah, this comes from Ruth, she says, a quick note pertaining to the segment in episode

185 involving Nicole's question her husband who has yet to remove his dad's estate papers

from the living room three years after his dad's death.

While question or tendencies may be at work here, I can't help but wonder if lingering

grief is also involved.

Staring up these papers may involve stirring up memories and sadness.

Her husband may be consciously or unconsciously avoiding doing that.

I think that could have been acknowledged here.

That's a good point.

It's an excellent point.

A couple people wrote in to say that in the way she with the way Nicole explained it, it

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