I was telling Cheryl, she's not being honest with us, she's telling us she dabbled in

witchcraft that's below me, man, that stuff that's going around through this house at

night is not something that happens when you dabble.

So anyway, it culminated to us.

We were on our way to a camp in Oregon, I was the speaker at a camp.

On that trip, we went through an Indian reservation and it was Winamaka, the large Indian

reservation in Nevada.

And when we came onto the reservation, and I was driving over 100 miles an hour because

we'd had to stop because you would go demonic and we'd have to stop and review demons.

And I was falling behind and I was going to be late to be the keynote speaker at this

event.

So I was doing over 100 miles an hour and when we came onto that Indian reservation,

all the doors of the van, we were in a shivvy van.

All the doors came open, all the seatbelts unlatched and this spirit tried to throw her

out onto the highway at 100 miles an hour.

Fortunately, she was a little gal.

I grabbed her by the hand, she was on the passenger front, I grabbed her by the hand and pulled

her back in, thankfully got the van stopped without anybody dying and it was quite a wild

ordeal.

There was a spirit that had taken her over and I said, I said, who are you?

And it said, I'm the power spirit of the Winamaka Indian nation.

And I said, what are you doing in Ramona?

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