And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

For two decades, Susan Rice has been at the center of American foreign policy issues

and assistant secretary of state and the Clinton administration, and of course, ambassador

to the United Nations and then national security adviser under President Obama.

And during the Obama administration, she was involved in some of the most critical decisions

the president made.

Ambassador Rice came by the Institute of Politics recently, and we had a chance to talk

about the history that she helped make.

Susan Rice, it's great to be with you as always.

Good to see you again.

It's great to be with you, AC.

And thank you for being at the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago.

We so appreciate that as well.

You know, you have a very distinguished career in public service, but I want to start by

talking to you about your parents, because their story, both of their stories, is quite remarkable.

So tell me about their journey, because it seems to me that it's very much one that informs

you around.

Well, they came from very different backgrounds.

My mother was born in Portland, Maine in 1933, and she was the daughter of immigrants from

Jamaica who had found their way to Portland around 1911, 1912.

And neither of my grandparents on my mother's side had any formal education beyond, say,

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